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    post 1990, even you can't make yourself believe otherwise. I can tell by your response......dont make me list them....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    post 1990, even you can't make yourself believe otherwise. I can tell by your response......dont make me list them....lol
    Lolol. List them? That would be like the list of the top 100 US Presidents of Polish descent. Later, QD.
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    Lol good one.

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    Lil wayne MAINSTREAM i dont like. Lil Wayne Mixtape, hes a lot better than i THOUGHT he was. But what i like about him is his word play, it is .............different.

    Eminem, im sorry i still think SLim shady and Marshall Mathers were 2 great albums. SLim Shady was so different when it came out. It was a white guy, who wasnt vanilla ice, and was not afraid to just dis EVERYONE. I mean he sang songs about killing his mom. I dont think you can argue that his lyrics were some of the most potent and vile stuff to come out in a long time, prob since 2pac.

    Anything after MM i think is horrible. eminem show, relapse, recovery, etc all garbage. new bad meets evil is decent, but not anywhere near his first albums .

    But i still think the best albums were the 90s. 2pac, outkast, gang starr, biggie, kRS, common, nas, etc.

    The last album i listened to that i actually like was the JCole mixtapes. Saigons album was pretty good too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Lil wayne MAINSTREAM i dont like. Lil Wayne Mixtape, hes a lot better than i THOUGHT he was. But what i like about him is his word play, it is .............different.

    Eminem, im sorry i still think SLim shady and Marshall Mathers were 2 great albums. SLim Shady was so different when it came out. It was a white guy, who wasnt vanilla ice, and was not afraid to just dis EVERYONE. I mean he sang songs about killing his mom. I dont think you can argue that his lyrics were some of the most potent and vile stuff to come out in a long time, prob since 2pac.

    Anything after MM i think is horrible. eminem show, relapse, recovery, etc all garbage. new bad meets evil is decent, but not anywhere near his first albums .

    But i still think the best albums were the 90s. 2pac, outkast, gang starr, biggie, kRS, common, nas, etc.

    The last album i listened to that i actually like was the JCole mixtapes. Saigons album was pretty good too

    indeed!!!!

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    Interesting debate going on in here, I like it! Personally, I listen to almost all rap with the exception of a few. I tend to view rap music almost like a subject in school. I try my best to study every word, and am constantly searching for a new artists to add to my collection. I can agree that today's rap seems less meaningful, or that most(not all), mainstream artists seem to put little effort in to their music these days. I tend to listen to older stuff, but with that said, their are still artists today that I would place in the top ten of all time list, although most are underground.
    If you haven't already, you should DEFINITELY check some of these artists out:
    Atmosphere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jack8LjitZk

    Cage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVtxW2AtbTg

    Aesop Rock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBGCOCxLgA

    Living Legends: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiki0vA7Tz8

    MF Doom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZwQSbpOU_k

    Eyedea & Abilities: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIcuDQ2uwkE

    Enjoy

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    Yeah i mean its perfectly ok to like a specific genre of rap more than another, but you also should be able to accept that each phase has its own "greats". This genres "great" is Lil Wayne, while i think he is very talented i struggle to put him in the same category as early Em, biggie, 2pac, Nas, etc.

    I think the shift has been that most rap nowadays isnt really rap, its pop rap. Its about waht sells millions or records and makes millions of dollars. I mean listen to the mainstream Lil Wayne and drake lyrics. Its about vacation, money, champagne, clubs, etc. Kinda hard to really hit an older core audience that grew up with "me against the world" and "ready to die" and "the message".

    Thats why very few people like J. Cole get any airtime because thier lyrics are depressing for lack of a better word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    But i still think the best albums were the 90s. 2pac, outkast, gang starr, biggie, kRS, common, nas, etc.
    NWA had two great records. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, WC and the Madd Circle all released albums that, to me, trump several of the ones you listed, Mike. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    NWA had two great records. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, WC and the Madd Circle all released albums that, to me, trump several of the ones you listed, Mike. Later, QD.
    well i said "etc" because i couldnt sit there and list every one LOL

    The Chronic and Doggystyle were prob 2 of the most influential albums of the decade. But i think Ice Cube doesnt get as much credit as he should. Sure he does NOW , but to me The Predator and Lethal Injection wereright up there.

    WC Like west coast connection WC?
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    NWA i respect what they did, but honestly i never liked Eazy-E or NWA, wasnt what i grew up on, and wasnt really my style. I liked the much more gritty bass heavy gangsta rap of the early to mid 90s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    But i think Ice Cube doesnt get as much credit as he should. Sure he does NOW , but to me The Predator and Lethal Injection wereright up there.
    I have no problem saying Cube should retire right now. He should have retired several years ago. Cube doesn't get so much credit now because of his past few albums have not been up to par with his earlier works.

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    WC Like west coast connection WC?
    Yessir. Check his earlier works out. Dude has always been a force in hip hop.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9CJ5QO9mMM
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    Chhyeeaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capone615 View Post
    I try my best to study every word
    No need to study this, I'll list the lyrics....... this is a small sample of why i say wayne is in the top 5 of all time.......

    and btw..... QUIT saying rap these days doesn't talk about anything but money and bitches..... ITS BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE DAY 1 WITH RAP...... biggie, pac, etc included......


    start listening at 2:25........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRwQJJYZdL8

    [Lil' Wayne:]
    And I take probation
    I don't want that T.I. and Vick vacation
    Private plane, big location
    I'm goin' to the bank to make a big donation
    Yeah, I don't stunt, I stunt hard
    And if the food ain't on the stove I hunt for it
    But in the meantime you can call me Young Roy
    Jones Junior fightin' the drugs and gun charge
    Shit, don't leave me unguarded
    And I'm a cheese head word to Vince Lombardi
    Word to Marky Mark leave a snitch departed
    All that blood like the Red Sea parted
    My gun go crazy like it's retarded
    Red light on it like it's recordin'
    I ain't recordin' I'm jus C4'in
    My currency foreign
    We are in a league they aren't
    Better dig in ya pocket an pay homage
    Better cover ya eyes ya face fallin'
    Watch the game from the side I'm play callin'
    No I didn't say that I'm flawless
    But I, damn sure don't tarnish
    My pistol got comments for ya garments
    I'm so high I can vomit on a comet
    K Y no homo I'm on it
    Weezy F. Baby new born bitch
    You know what they say 'bout when ya palm itch
    I'm gon' get money money I'm gon' get
    Young Money in ya tummy and we gon' shit
    An get that toilet paper quick like when bones spit
    That's right bitch I'm back on my grown shit
    That automatic k no ice just chrome shit
    And ya' boyfriend softer than a foam pit
    I scream "fuck the world" wit' a long dick
    Motherfucker I'm me, yeah bitch I'm me
    You niggas sweet like the pussy in which I eat
    Fireman burn down ya' entire street
    So fly I'm a take off when I leap, bye
    And you can suck my wings
    Stand on my money headbutt Yao Ming
    Putcha hand in the oven if ya' touch my things
    I'm shufflin' the cards 'bout to cut my queens
    But I ain't the dealer
    House full of bitches like Tila Tequila
    Yeah, I'm the man in the mirror
    My swagger jus screamin' mothafucker do you hear her
    Drizzy Drake what the lick read?
    We make magic boy Roy and Sigfreid
    Whoo! Young Moula baby, yeah



    Post me a verse and link to a harder verse then the above!.... this is a lyrical battle, lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    . QUIT saying rap these days doesn't talk about anything but money and bitches..... ITS BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE DAY 1 WITH RAP...... biggie, pac, etc included......
    Since day 1? No. Wrong answer, sir. When hip hop/rap first came out, it was about one of three things: politics, "who is better" and partying. All the way through the 80's and into the 90's, this was what rap was about. Grandmaster Flash, Grand Wizard Theodore, Whodini to Stetsasonic, Main Source, Gangstarr were all rappers who weren't entailed by all the "I got fame and money" crap that became the drone of rap in the late 90's. This is why I maintain that rap stayed pretty decent until the late 90's. There were your few excerpts from that such as The 2 Live Crew and Too Short, but 95% of hip hop revolved around personal issues, society issues and battling about who was better than the other. Trust me on this. Even though NWA rapped about "bitches," it was less than secondary to their main topics. Again, that was political issues. Life in the ghetto.

    Folks want to talk about listening to Common, Doom, Aesop because they have something to say. Sit down and actually listen to The Message. 8 Million Stories. KRS-1. Check out some of the greats who helped usher in your Lil Waynes and Feminems. They had some real shit to say. Later, QD.
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    Here are the lyrics to one of the songs I posted. For the record I don't hate Lil Wayne, I used to listen to some of his stuff, and actually liked the carter 1 & 2.

    Lyrics to Agent Orange by Cage:

    [whispered in the background:]
    "Smoke dust, shoot the cops
    Give out automatics to your friends on the block"

    There was me, Alex.. and three of my mens
    All supposed to meet at Korova Milk Bar
    The Korova Milk Bar couldn't afford it's liquor license
    so it sold milkplus Drencrom, or Synthmesc
    It would sharpen you up for a bit of the ol' ultraviolence
    which plagued our minds for the evening
    And so kiddies... death for all, right right?! RIGHT RIGHT!!

    [Verse One: Cage]
    I'm Against the Machine like Rage; bitches say, "I hate you Cage!"
    After circle jerks, I wash my hands off and do dirt
    Sick with a smirk, plus I be disturbed
    Fucked the first two bitches like dogs and I jacked off on the third
    I'm obvious oblivion but that's my science
    Fuck your head up like corn rows put in by blind giants
    Haven't been with it, since the last corpse kidded
    Wore a blood stained smile, and told the cop, "He did it!"
    Of course the most raw throughout the 9-1-4, 1-0-9-4-0
    Got you beasts shook like Doc Moreau
    Pour beer out for yourself because you're walkin dead
    I'll burn your house down like a fuckin Talking Head
    And get high like fuck, and pick apart my brain
    Disections [HA!] may [HA!] mentally [HA!] cause [HA!] infections
    Break you with inventions, sick intentions
    Leave most MC's lost in my sentence
    I'm strictly, beyond and back, come and get me
    Hemotobin, left from a lip like a hickie
    Leak smoke got me ready to murder a rookie
    Killers on your block tuck in they dicks like Tootsie
    Come and witness what your shit missed
    Watch the glock kiss, Little Sis' wetter like a Baptist
    Inconvinence; dilemma, like sitting on, Venus
    with no shuttle, treeless
    Try and pick apart some Agent Orange perception
    Catch frontal lobe damage and not manage correction
    I smell leak smoke, left by the anonymous
    Beats brought back to life, die, when I'm embalmin this
    Come around and get yo' ass shot to clusters
    I'ma play the injuns with the arrows you be Custard's.. back
    I write upon ya, divorce your head and neck then scalp it
    Rip off all your flesh and make a outfit

    [Chorus: cut and scratched by the DJ]
    People said his brain was infected by devils [x3]
    Infected by, infected by, infected by devils
    People said his brain was infected by devils [x3]

    [Verse Two: Cage]
    I survived abortion; got mushed in that canister shaped coffin
    til stolen ("that bitch") from the garbage I was tossed in
    Instincts, snatch your cream like links
    Blow shotguns through the sky, makin E.T. eyes chink
    See me twistin leak with my peeps from psychiatrics
    Get high, run up in ya crib and fuck ya moms backwards
    Lost in the dust, don't give a fuck about dangerous
    I'm in it for the whip, plus the cream and the head.. rush
    Ready to bust any trick that talk slick
    Know a crew of devils in my head that force me to walk..
    with, Death in my pocket for the curious
    At your execution see twelve faces of Jesus in your jury this,
    Orange Agent, shit on the vagrant
    Caught you in the alley by yourself and left your head vacant
    Dare you sample, some of the stress in my life
    Give an MC brain surgery with butterfly knives
    For all you cunts that try to spit with your bitch clique behind ya
    Wake up in the mornin with a horsehead beside ya
    Ma Dukes is just a cherry on top
    Spendin G's on quacks to try an fix my Clock
    I caught the quick lock, buggin in the institution
    Whatever sanity was left, caught the execution
    Psychological pollution, they stickin me with Thorazine solution
    Shootin at the sky lookin for Godly retribution
    And I can almost see clear
    I start buggin like a insect and lay larvae in ya ear
    Agent Orange stompin on MC corpse slim circle body part
    Call murder scenes abstract art
    Split your sweet prayers since the horror show with infra-red
    Boots get planted in chest there for the misled
    Lay it down for naps in the dirt, just like Clockwork
    Undress your ghost while your brain's takin a squirt

    [Chorus]

    [Dialogue below interpreted by Cage from the film "Clockwork Orange"]

    Still feeling alive as the young devotchka collapsed
    Me being still ready for more in-out in-out
    Necro still forcing syringes and dope tracks on the locals
    We came to a place called home
    and did a little of the old, break and enter
    I could feel the Drencrom, leading me on to a horrow show
    trying to walk; me being up twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    Since day 1? No. Wrong answer, sir. When hip hop/rap first came out, it was about one of three things: politics, "who is better" and partying. All the way through the 80's and into the 90's, this was what rap was about. Grandmaster Flash, Grand Wizard Theodore, Whodini to Stetsasonic, Main Source, Gangstarr were all rappers who weren't entailed by all the "I got fame and money" crap that became the drone of rap in the late 90's. This is why I maintain that rap stayed pretty decent until the late 90's. There were your few excerpts from that such as The 2 Live Crew and Too Short, but 95% of hip hop revolved around personal issues, society issues and battling about who was better than the other. Trust me on this. Even though NWA rapped about "bitches," it was less than secondary to their main topics. Again, that was political issues. Life in the ghetto.

    Folks want to talk about listening to Common, Doom, Aesop because they have something to say. Sit down and actually listen to The Message. 8 Million Stories. KRS-1. Check out some of the greats who helped usher in your Lil Waynes and Feminems. They had some real shit to say. Later, QD.
    yeah i tend to agree with that, rap took a turn in the mid to late 90s with the gangsta rap progression which became about women, partying, getting drunk which evolved into the current Drake, Lil wayne, Nicki minaj, Akon crapfest we have now.

    In the beginning it was about social injustice, crooked cops, gang vs gang, politics, etc. It became something else as i think the record companies figured out how to make tons of dough. Lets face it no one wants to listen to Tech-9 in a club, they want Birdman and Nicki Minaj
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    anything by J. Cole beats that Wayne Verse. Although i do like that song by Wayne, and again i like his word play, but he is not a lyrical genius by any means
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    so i'm curious...this is to QD, and i've been saying this for a while anyway. RAP (not hip hop) started off about partying/dance songs, but now when soulja boi, etc do dance songs, its called a disgrace to the 'game'....tell me its not a contradiction?

    now...for the most part, i listen to all of the music, alot have purposes..some i use for waking up in teh morning/going on a road trip, some i listen to for the lyrics itself, etc. i'm not saying soulja and people in his 'genre' are the greatest, but to put him down as pure bullshit, doesnt make sense, since at the end of the day, thats what started it off...and i'm basing that off of your post..and you call lil wayne trash, but he's constantly speaking on the same thing 'who is better' his lollipop song was a partying/club song..young jeezy hits on politics and SOME partying songs, on top of his 'trap' life.

    so which is it?!

    When hip hop/rap first came out, it was about one of three things: politics, "who is better" and partying. All the way through the 80's and into the 90's, this was what rap was about.



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    Im sorry but i totally disagree with what "rap" started out as. No one was making millions with Rap music until the early to mid 90s.

    Soulja Boy , Waka Flocka, etc is all garbage, but i still listen to garbage sometimes. I mean i never take music so seriously i cant laughingly listen to different styles.

    I actually think Soulja boy is smart, he is a great marketing person. I mean hes doing something right if hes making millions at 18. Who cares if his music sucks, or he "killed hip hop" like Ice T said, he made millions. Since when does someone have to always have some deep message? sometimes its just bubble gum music to listen to. Which is what Soulja Boy does.

    Which is what Wayne does
    Which is what 50cent does
    Which is what Eminem does

    etc.

    If you want to make MONEY TODAY, you rap about bootys, bitches, and big screen TVs. or the CLUB, or Champagne, etc.

    If you want to promote a message, you make a mixtape that 1/100th of the people will hear
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    alot of mixtapes are shit too..so you cant say that necessarily...and Em doesnt do 'bubble gum' music. his two singles he started out w/ were pretty much, but his albums were far from it. Eminem's mixtapes though...yea..pretty crucial...but all of his music, all have messages in them. if i want to listen to something w/ a deep message, one of the first artist that comes to mind right now is Lupe



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    alot of mixtapes are shit too..so you cant say that necessarily...and Em doesnt do 'bubble gum' music. his two singles he started out w/ were pretty much, but his albums were far from it. Eminem's mixtapes though...yea..pretty crucial...but all of his music, all have messages in them. if i want to listen to something w/ a deep message, one of the first artist that comes to mind right now is Lupe
    im sorry if you do a song with the singer from Paramore or Rhianna , its pop music. i dont care if he did talk about burning down his house with his ex wife in it
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    to each his own, but the song still had relevance/message...whose Paramore? i got respect for Rhianna since she shooting dudes in the head in videos now LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    yeah i tend to agree with that, rap took a turn in the mid to late 90s with the gangsta rap progression which became about women, partying, getting drunk which evolved into the current Drake, Lil wayne, Nicki minaj, Akon crapfest we have now.

    In the beginning it was about social injustice, crooked cops, gang vs gang, politics, etc. It became something else as i think the record companies figured out how to make tons of dough. Lets face it no one wants to listen to Tech-9 in a club, they want Birdman and Nicki Minaj
    I'm with you on this entire post, dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    so i'm curious...this is to QD, and i've been saying this for a while anyway. RAP (not hip hop) started off about partying/dance songs, but now when soulja boi, etc do dance songs, its called a disgrace to the 'game'....tell me its not a contradiction?
    First off, back in the beginning, rap and hip hop were one and the same. It didn't break off until later in the 90's when subject matter split off into what we have now. Where rap went more into just being about how much fame, fortune and females you had, hip hop continued down the same path of personal feelings, social aspects and political views (police, government, poverty).

    A contradiction in the straight sense of it all, but not in the grand scheme of things. Listen to a party-style track from 1980 and listen to the same style from the 2000's. You can't put Slick Rick and Dougie Fresh in the same arena as Lil Jon and Soulja Boy. Try to listen to Lah-Di-Dah-Di and then listen to Superman that Hoe. The comparison is non-existent. Back then, stories were told during party anthems. Today, pretty much nothing said. Later, QD.
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    No offense, granted i didnt necessarily grow up in that era, but that doesnt sound like a track that would be dubbed a 'club' song...the grandmaster flash was more of what you were mentioning, if thats the case, i can understand your argument. BUT!!!! at the end of the day, soulja and lil jon still produce 'club' songs to make people dance, granted they dont have a story behind them, but its 'feel good music', which is part of what rap is about, am i right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    No offense, granted i didnt necessarily grow up in that era, but that doesnt sound like a track that would be dubbed a 'club' song...the grandmaster flash was more of what you were mentioning, if thats the case, i can understand your argument. BUT!!!! at the end of the day, soulja and lil jon still produce 'club' songs to make people dance, granted they dont have a story behind them,
    Grandmaster Flash was, for the most part, NOT club music. They did have their fair share of club style music. It's Nasty and Birthday Party were a couple. But I'd rather hear a well thought-out track thatn one that just says, "superman dat hoe" for five straight minutes. That's just plain annoying.

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    but its 'feel good music', which is part of what rap is about, am i right?
    At the end of the day, isn't pretty much all music? Later, QD.
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    except those country music where the guy loses his GF or the raps that eminem talks about shankin his mom and wife lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    anything by J. Cole beats that Wayne Verse. Although i do like that song by Wayne, and again i like his word play, but he is not a lyrical genius by any means
    you said that. but i know you don't actually believe that..... that was to say the least, even with the lyrics, a bad experience for my ears....

    beyonce beat........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49bhGgKdduk

    I know u see da gwap cause gettin money is wut we on
    ridin drop top in da winter wit da heat on
    bad yella bitch keep my passenger seat warm
    leg hangin out da winda u ain't got dese on
    bitch holla it is lil weezy
    dey can not see me they are like stevie

    I am bearing a ton like lee-v
    I circle ya house like bee-bee
    colder dan da he-be-gee-bees
    neva give free bees 75 thousand for dese fees
    shid I can get a 100 thousand up in dese jeans
    big stacks my pockets on creatine

    young money dipset nigga we a team
    if u don't like it nigga fuck u no vaseline
    errr I peel off in da lambergine
    like a tangerine got da engine
    straight shakin like a tamberine

    like a bitch wit some lips like angalin-na jolie
    hoe lee got flow I'd go where no other guy go
    fuck you hoe I'm so 50-4
    I hope every snitch die slow
    hip-hop dats my hoe I know she know I like it wet
    don't want no dry hoe
    alright bitch I am d-boy no decoy and
    I will straight up destroy
    any boy or man and I prefor money den
    bitches or just refer
    we are young money bitches and I am da leader
    he are currency mac maine and bboy and I just signed
    a chick named nicky ne-norge

    And me I'm still spitten like a retard
    and dese niggas soft dey should be rappin in leotards

    nigga we in charge baby put me in charge
    and I'm just murderin niggas free of charge
    ya digg juss holla back I see ya sarge
    and I'm so fuckin high I could eat a star

    yeah and let me upgrade u
    u may not be a model but I can front page ya
    u know I'm nasty excuse my behavior
    let me juss taste ya we can fuck late-ta
    sitten in da coop lookin like a racer
    top peeled back like da skin of a potato
    seat way back listen to anita baker
    ridin by myself smokin weed by da acre

    hollygrove gata ain't nobody greater
    leave wit some bullet holes da size of craters
    u ain't heard da latest weezy f da greatset
    battle anybody nigga fuck away ya favorite
    its a new game and I'm da coach like avery
    leave it to da flow we gettin doe like a bakery
    I don't really want to but dese niggas makein me
    put a muthafucker on ice like da mapleleaves

    now dats a hockey team and I ain't on no hockey team
    but I'm a champion wheres da fucking rocky theme
    damn rest in peace applo creed
    I'mma monster everyday is halloween
    alot of syrup alot of pills and a lot of weed
    and I keep my pockets green like a pot of peas
    and if u hatin baby u can get a shot of dese
    dese nut in ya mouth tell u swallow please

    haha yeah I'm so hot I freeze
    big balls and dey jangle like alot of keys
    even deaf bitches say hi to me
    she tell a blind bitch and she say I gotta see

    young carter darlin understand I am micheal jordan ballin
    yes I'mma dog I'mma haul ya homie
    I'mma boss ya man is juss an employer mommie
    lemme upgrade u

    i'll do you one better...........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCRGaPvFE84

    Bitch im back on my grizzy,
    Young money where ya at?,
    Two tables and a mic,
    Tell the Dj run it back,

    Bitch im back on my grizzy,
    Young money where ya at?,
    If you fuck wit Younh Money,
    Yougn Money where you at?,
    Like the energizer bunny wit a battery pack,
    Boy that drummer keep drummin, like B-r-r-at-at-at-tat,

    Or B-r-r-rump-bum-bum-bum,
    Im so young but im a Giant like Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum,
    Just bought a new crib, And insides so dumb,
    Got some money put away, incase the hurricane come,
    Im a fuckin shame huh? yea i know yea i know,
    I go out the country to get all my clothes and my hoes,
    And i go out my way just to get my dro and my doe,
    Cause, I love it more than i do my hoes yes i doess,
    I got gasoline comin out my pours,
    Imma torch,
    I got glasses like that white boy Scott Storch,
    And a porshe,
    I got license for tha scortch,
    Snipers at your porch,
    Rifles by the forts,
    And we shoot up courts,
    The judge juss a bitch,
    The jury suck dick,
    Im a eastside blood,
    And i dont smoke that crip,
    I smoke that kutch,
    First name Bubba,
    First names Young,
    Last name Stunna,
    Carter in the office,
    Take notes when im talkin,
    Smooth as a cruz boat floats when im walkin,
    I boast cause im ballin,
    I boast to be ballin,
    When im on the phone wit bitches man the money keep callin,

    You aint satisfied till ya son'll be callin,
    Tellin you where to leave the money in the mornin,
    Ok you wanna zombie mover instead,
    Thats when you walk in ya house and everybody dead,
    I can take a shit where i stand,
    Where i stand...and watch you pussies piss in ya pants,
    You aint a man your a hoe,
    I can kill him with the flow,
    And then play the guitar at the fuckin funeral,

    Big guns so they drinkin big shots,
    And my gam go Saddam Hussein and missile launch,
    The Corrain call me Wayne Chain,
    Listen ma, i dont know karate, but after the brain, i kick you out,
    You niggas suck like tony romo, no homo,
    And im all about my money, i get paid for promo yeaa,
    Im the man in this bitch, they say money talks wel..
    Im tha ventriloquist,
    And if i ever jump, il prolly land in ya bitch,
    Boy that hoe colder than my hand and my wrist,
    Boy im more cooler than a fan and a mint,
    And when im done this track we'll need a couple bandages,
    I be wit savages and im above average,
    Im a crazy ass star like a fuckin asterick,

    You niggas cant see me, im on my casper shit,
    Runnin so much game, i fuck around and lap a bitch,
    If love like a grocery, i juss bag a bitch,
    And you kno im gonna score like Deion after picks,
    Im rollin on a pill, she get that mornin after dick,

    And when my roll came down guess whut i did after it,
    I popped and took some patrone shots,
    I pop popped and took some Grey goose shots,
    I pop popped...yea..
    Young Money bitch, and if you niggas wan' do it , we chop chop,
    Leave ya back on tha block,
    We pop cops,
    And there aint no rights on my block,
    I got shop,
    I got that dro, i got them pills, i got that yay,
    Give it to them hoes and watch them bitches freak away...


    get real........ cage<wayne ......

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    ^^^ I have to ask you, are the lyrics highlighted supposed to be his "genius wordplay?" I'm honestly not saying this because of my dislike of Wayne, but that was terrible. There is nothing mensa-like in that at all. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    ^^^ I have to ask you, are the lyrics highlighted supposed to be his "genius wordplay?" I'm honestly not saying this because of my dislike of Wayne, but that was terrible. There is nothing mensa-like in that at all. Later, QD.
    Based solely on ur dislike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    Based solely on ur dislike.
    Nah. Based on recognizing competitive lyrics.

    You think this is ingenious?

    "bitch holla it is lil weezy
    dey can not see me they are like stevie"

    "And me I'm still spitten like a retard
    and dese niggas soft dey should be rappin in leotards"

    "You aint a man your a hoe,
    I can kill him with the flow,
    And then play the guitar at the fuckin funeral"

    There is no thought process to these lines, man. That's just weak, basic shit, man. These are the kind of rhymes that someone that's just getting into rhyming would put out. I would expect someone who has been around for over a decade to come forth with much better shit than this.

    But if you're a Weezy fan and you know what you're talking about when it comes to devastating lyrics and you say these are examples of such.............

    ...................who am I to argue. Later, QD.
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    Pac Is on my personal favorites list.. Keyword : Personal..

    However, Any list that comes out through any media outlets ( TV, Magz, Online ) or Professional producer will have Pac in the top 5 of all time.. maybe even top 3 of all time...
    Pac changed the Face of hip hop / rap.. Something not many have done.. Many have tried, but haven't.

    Eazy E put gansta rap out their.. Dre refined it with the Tunes.... then some took it from their.

    In my eyes.. Hip Hop started messing up in the whole Master P and No Limit era.. went down hill from there..

    DMX is also one my favorites.. So Is EM.. and a few more.. Ice Cube had a great run with some hot stuff.. .. Early 90's Fat Joe stuff.. Album " REPRESENT " one of my personal favorites from Fat Joe..Das Effex.. and my list goes on.. Jay Z , im 50/50 with..

    If you would to ask me, whos the best of all time.. I would have to say
    JAY - Z .. Richest Rapper ever.. Made good Music.. Is a business men...
    Why is he the best in my eyes.. When against all criticism and bit other people's line and became the most powerful man in Hip Hop.

    Is he my best ? NO.. However.. Dude has been the smartest of all of them.. Even smarter the Russell Simmons..



    My favorite is Nasir Jones. ( OLD STUFF )

    I dont even listen to music now a days.. I have no idea whats out there and whats hot.. TI fell off.. People think Lil Wayne and drake are gods gift to music with there cookie cutting lyrics..

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    I gotta agree with QD. In my opinion most of Lil Wayne's songs consist of him saying basically the same-things over and over again. Once again, I don't exactly hate Lil' Wayne, but to me, there is no way in hell that he is "the greatest rapper alive" no matter how many times he says it in his songs, trying to make his fans to believe it.
    For shits and giggles:
    Cage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOrCZVdRndo He directed this towards Emeniem back when they had beef.

    (CAGE)
    You wanna kill me nigga?

    All the way live, we bring to you to host the annual drowning,
    in Lake Michigan..

    (CAGE)
    I heard some blonde bitch walking through New York looking for Cage
    I'll stab you in the face, ten times in the same place
    Lace your little infant 'til you thinking different
    When in the same building on the street lift you off your feet
    Won't chill then, microsibling to my cock
    Dribbling, Scribbling verses
    For the worthless, fuck a million purses
    Keep the doctor to remove the slug
    I bug when I stand so simple
    Took you in the club
    Something for ya entourage
    Something for your body guards
    History shows rappers dying in cars
    They lost one in the West; we lost one in the East
    Should I drown you in Lake Mich. or buck you in Miami Beach?

    Chorus: Cage

    The illest four-letter word in the world is Cage!
    Ya better off fucking some cunt raw and gettin AIDS

    Bitch the illest four letter word in the world is Cage!
    Bitch the illest four letter word in the world is Cage!
    Ya better off fucking some cunt raw and gettin AIDS

    The Illest four letter word in the world is Cage!

    (CAGE)
    The illest four letter word in the world, supporter
    Rhyme slaughter, the listener to death save the gun for the
    Blonde Ambition, fell off the Christian wagon
    Your systems saggin biting my shit and I'm laughing
    I can freak simple shit and sell records but I don't
    I write the illest shit that cause fans to enter bitin' zones
    Keep your guards by your guard you showing cards on the low
    See a man gotta deal, now y'all look just like ??
    All you schizophrenics need help with reality
    Kill your two little personalities
    Shark getting snuck a salary
    Observe gravity pullin ya in to earth gradually
    You'll see you need a style I create to try and battle me

    Chorus

    (CAGE)
    Big electro shock that you can't understand
    I wreck intellects slanted brains like Japan
    My An-ger's a result of sick lust
    Won't you come and injure us with their brains stringed up
    I've never contemplated while hallucinating
    my existence aiding those with imaginations
    and mental disorders pulsating
    I'm training
    My lost love leaves princess to interest and this other slut
    To puff bundles of dust
    From bongs while she rocks a thong we get drawn
    I keep scratching her clit with salad tongs
    Fucked her up against the intercom
    So my nigga's down stairs can hear
    We're buggin like an insect laying larva in ya ear

    Another sick ass song. Listen all the way through!
    Immortal Technique: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yKTuvRmPE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    If you would to ask me, whos the best of all time.. I would have to say
    JAY - Z .. Richest Rapper ever.. Made good Music.. Is a business men...
    Why is he the best in my eyes.. When against all criticism and bit other people's line and became the most powerful man in Hip Hop.

    Is he my best ? NO.. However.. Dude has been the smartest of all of them.. Even smarter the Russell Simmons.. .
    The ONLY reason Gay-Z is a better rapper than Russell Simmons is because Russell Simmons was never a rapper, lolol. Later, QD.
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    I hate Jay-Z, but NAS's older stuff is the shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    The ONLY reason Gay-Z is a better rapper than Russell Simmons is because Russell Simmons was never a rapper, lolol. Later, QD.

    lol... Business wise ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capone615 View Post
    He directed this towards Emeniem back when they had beef.
    I'm not saying this because im from detroit. But do you HONESTLY think cage is better then eminem? And if you do, what do you think about Proof......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capone615 View Post
    I gotta agree with QD. In my opinion most of Lil Wayne's songs consist of him saying basically the same-things over and over again.

    Even you don't believe that. Every song I Posted sounded completely different in each and every way. The point is you aren't listening to his songs because you don't like him, thats obvious...... thats why you agree with QD. You know he's not clicking any links i post, he's a good guy, thats just his MO.

    but this is a good thread guys...... keep it going........ and btw cage is no comparison to real freestyle rappers..... cassidy, proof, etc...... but he is good doe! better then i thought he would be

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuOED...eature=related .. these joint are almost 20 years old..

    Fat Joe ( DJ Premier Remix ) I'm sure most only know Fat Joe for his 2K + Shit.. which all sucks.. for the most part..


    1995 Fat Joe on Marvin's Shit
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPo8Sil02rY

    Simple Lyrics.. Not all that bullshit we been hearing since 2000 from all these weirdos..

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    JDM94Coupe, I never claimed that he was better than Emeniem, I simply stated that Emeniem is who he wrote the song about. As for Lil Wayne, I actually have every single song that you have posted in my Itunes library. Like I have said, I used to listen to the guy, but have since moved on after feeling that every song has become repetitive, and what REALLY killed it was when he began using auto tune. One song that I do like by him is "The Heat" off the Carter 1. All I'm saying is that I do not believe Lil' Wayne is "the greatest rapper alive" or even close to it, I used Cage as an example of one of many average artists who I believe to be greater than Lil Wayne. No, I do not believe Cage is the best rapper alive, I actually hate his new Cd, but I do believe that he is better than Lil' Wayne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    lol... Business wise ..
    Haha. Remember though J, the rap/hip hop genre wasn't as business savvy back in those days as it is now. They didn't have the backing of other businesses and corporations that they do now. Money wasn't flowing into these guys pockets like they do now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    You know he's not clicking any links i post, he's a good guy, thats just his MO.
    My "MO?" I'm not using tactics to get around your points. I'm being straight with you with an unbiased ear, dude. It seems your only rebuttal to my opinions are to say "you just don't like him." Whereas I'm offering up some sort of argument as to why I don't think your favorite rapper is all that good, you're doing nothing except I'm only saying that because I don't like him.

    I could probably play about 20 different Wayne tracks and no one would hardly know the difference. His mumbling throughout his tracks make each song sound the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    but this is a good thread guys...... keep it going.......
    Yeah, it's not a bad topic at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    Simple Lyrics.. Not all that bullshit we been hearing since 2000 from all these weirdos..
    Agreed. Even though I'm no fan of Fat Joe or Jay Z or Nas, I'd give them all the respect in the world of rap over anyone from after 2000. Later, QD.
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